OurAirports: Comments on airports in New Jersey, United States

[13N] "re: Not for me..." by Anonymous Flier

Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:20:47 -0500

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Trinca Airport, United States:

Maybe you ignored and drove past the three signs telling you to park in the parking lot and not drive on the ramp? If so it shows your character to be that of, "I ignore rules and can do whatever I want", meaning they probably wouldn't want types like you there in the first place!

[KTEB] "re: Manhattan and Hudson River Corridor Access" by david

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:01:07 -0500

Comment by @david on Teterboro Airport, United States:

Reply to @willymopit: I've always been treated well at TEB too (I use Atlantic), but I agree about cost of a taxi. There is a bus that stops near the airport and goes to the Port Authority; alternatively, maybe it's possible to take a cab just to the nearest NJ Transit rail station, and get into Manhattan that way. I'll look into it on my next visit.

[KTEB] "Manhattan and Hudson River Corridor Access" by willymopit

Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:04:04 -0500

Comment by @willymopit on Teterboro Airport, United States:

Landed here to take a couple people residing in Manhattan on a Hudson River flight. First Aviation treated me well, and with the purchase of 20 gallons of fuel, waived the ramp fee. Looked kinda silly parking a C-152 next to all the executive jets, but they gave me first rate service and parking regardless.

Cab ride to Manhattan is exorbitant, need to find a better way!

[KAIY] "Closure why?" by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:22:22 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Atlantic City Municipal Bader Field, United States:

It doesn't make any sense that the FAA closed Bader Field. It was a great little airport servicing AC and was easy to get in an out of; no red tape, no long lines, just fun. The excuse of the tall buildings being too close was a load. We used to fly over the President Hotel all the time and no one ever got hurt. I don't think until the Citation incident that there was ever a situation. It was good enough for Lindbergh and the host of presidents and officials. So convenient, a real shame politics had to prevail......There will always be a place in my heart for Bader Field. Check out my latest book "Bader Field" by Carl David.......

[KAIY] "re: Bader Field memories" by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:14:08 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Atlantic City Municipal Bader Field, United States:

I agree, having had many flights in and out of there over the years with my father. My latest book, "Bader Field" (Nightengale Press) is aptly named because that was the last place I saw my father. There is a good amount of flying in the book. (The cover has a shot of my Dad next to his last airplane (Aztec D) at Bader Field.

Carl David

[KAIY] "Bader Field memories" by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 21 Jul 2011 01:10:14 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Atlantic City Municipal Bader Field, United States:

Great memories of Bader Field. My solo flight in 1967 was one my greatest thrills. My first flight instructor was Joe Trappy who also was the GM of the field. Joe also taught my dad at Wings Field in 1945. To think that Bader was closed for "development" purposes just gets under my skin. It was a great place for a kid to learn and grow up.

Jim Duffy

[13N] "re: First Solo out of Trinca!" by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 09 Jun 2011 06:58:43 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Trinca Airport, United States:

Reply to @Steve: Don't know what magic you are talking about.

[13N] "re: Not for me..." by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 09 Jun 2011 06:55:43 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Trinca Airport, United States:

The guy they have managing that place hates you and the world. He gets an attitude with just about everyone who stops in. If he hates people so much, why is he the manager of anything? What a bunch of sh*t. Doesn't belong in a public position with that attitude. Find out who owns the airport and file a complaint!

[13N] "Not for me..." by Anonymous Flier

Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:24:11 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Trinca Airport, United States:

Drove in this evening (7PM) for a friendly hello and to check out grass landing strip..... Manager was very gruff and overly aggressive.... not good for someone in business... too bad... I might have wanted to tie my plane(s) down there..... I wouldn't land there now in an emergency. Good luck!

[KAIY] "hot day take off from Bader Field to Zahns Airport on Long I" by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:19:33 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Atlantic City Municipal Bader Field, United States:

hot day take off with a cherokee 140 and 3 on board was "very iteresting",through downtown atlantic city,YEARS AGO.

[N07] "Ed Gorski" by Anonymous Flier

Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:08:48 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

Wow, cant believe I found this sight. I worked for Ed in the early 70's > I did everything from sweep the runway, to washing his car and loved every minute of it. Instructors were great. Arnold Kufta, Tony Farrel, Bill Reda, Bill Feddishon, Daine Sutton, and Chuck Smith. What a great bunch of guys. And their was Lucifer the cat. He used to catch mice in the field and bring them for Ed. Ed loved that damn cat !! Many good memories with Wayne W. hangin in the commander, breaking into the furnace room and buying those bottles of coke, and lets not forget driving the go carts down the runway on lousy weather days. Would love to hear info on any of them guy

[KTEB] "Great Airport" by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:06:44 -0500

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Teterboro Airport, United States:

Exclusive Charter Service has great service out of here,

suggest calling them for a Jet, flow with them for years now and always on the ball!

MIke D

[13N] "Look what I found - Ernest "Pete" Billow" by MPonton

Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:31:16 -0500

Comment by @MPonton on Trinca Airport, United States:

http://www.eaa.org/apps/obituaries/MemorialWall2.aspx?ID=1006

Mel Ponton again

[13N] "My first too." by Anonymous Flier

Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:44:57 -0500

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Trinca Airport, United States:

I discovered Trinca in the winter of 1961. I was a senior at Netcong HS with a hankering to fly. I drove up to Trinca one day, didn't see anybody until I located the office. Pete was in there with another guy and I asked about flying lessons and how much they cost. Pete told me they were $12 an hour. At the time I could not afford the price of a full hour so Pete offered to give me half-hour lessons. Then he asked if I had ever been up in a plane and I said no. Then Pete said to the other guy there that a guy should not start taking lessons if he had not been up. Then he said he had to take one of the planes up for some exercise and did I want to go along with him. So, he took me up for the better part of a half-hour. The following weekend I started my half-hour lessons. Usually, at the conclusion of the lesson Pete would take over and we would go for a ride hedge hoping all over the surounding countryside. Boy, sure could he fly that J3.

There was a lady who kept a 172 at the field, here name was/is Roxanne Perona. Toward the end of my instructions Pete told me I should check out in the 172 because it was more appropriate for carrying passengers. It was a VERY windy day and my landings were rough to say the least. So Pete took it around with the intention of showing me how to do it. Well, he had as much trouble bringing it in smoothly as I did and after we were on the ground he taxied over to the office where Rozanne was standing. When he came out of the office he heard Rozanne say, "He isn't going to send you up by yourself is he?" and I told her that he had not said anything to me about going up by myself. Well, he must have heard what Roxanne said and as he was walking toward the plane he surprised Roxanne and I by saying to me, "Why don't you take it around the pattern by yourself a few times." Then he turned around and started heading back to the office and as he did he said to Roxanne, "You have to know when to get out of the airplane, Roxanne."

Pete was a hell of a pilot and a hell of a man. I had heard that he died sometime back - not sure when. I would love to go back up to Trinca and spend some time with him. I guess I should have gone sooner. Let me extend my best wishes to all of you who are "graduates" of Trica. It was a great place to fly. - Mel Ponton, Bloomsbury, NJ

[NJ10] "code NJ10" by rrobledo

Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:15:02 -0500

Comment by @rrobledo on Dayton Heliport, United States:

The FAA uses 'NJ10' for Dayton Heliport, South Brunswick, NJ

[NJ16] "re: Can't find this airport" by ptomblin

Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:50:21 -0400

Comment by @ptomblin on Sliker Strip, United States:

This new location is certainly closer to Sliker Road.

[NJ16] "re: Can't find this airport" by david

Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:38:22 -0400

Comment by @david on Sliker Strip, United States:

This certainly looks more convincing. I'll put it at the location you suggested, at least until we find more official information.

[NJ16] "re: Can't find this airport" by Anonymous Flier

Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:04:16 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Sliker Strip, United States:

I believe from speaking with locals that this is the correct location:

40 degrees 44' 56.64" N 74 degrees 51' 46.03" W

[13N] "my first airport" by Anonymous Flier

Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:20:32 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Trinca Airport, United States:

I learned to fly with Ernie at Trinca in a J-3 in 1961. Then I bought my Stinson 108 to take my license. I left Trinca and moved to another state. When I flew back, I was porposing. I asked Ernie to do some dual to find out the cause. He said I had been flying at too many paved airports and wasn't following the undulations of the runway. No more problem. I had the Stinson from Maine to San Diego. It's true, you can learn to fly well at Trinca, and have some fond memories to take with you. I still fly when I get a chance, and my son flies for Delta.

Bill Bundy

[N07] "re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY" by Flyboy13th

Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:44:31 -0400

Comment by @Flyboy13th on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

Reply to @blueskyes:

Enjoyed reading about your Ed Gorski experiences ---I agree, good man!

I can see him again in the round concrete office saying "---hmm don't have enough money eh? --- ok build an airport symbol with a wind sock out there near the runway and we'll start teaching you to fly". That was in 1946 and I was back from 23 missions as flight engineer on B-24's in the South Pacific.

Ed's CFI Steve Bannister #33659 sat in the front of the Piper Cub puffing a cigar (no, really; blew smoke back over his shoulder in my face!) and we were off for "Familiarization, Climb, Glide, Turns, Coordinations" for 30 minutes. It's all right here in my log book that your fine write-up made me dig out -- Cub J3 -- 27056-- Cont 65 --- wonder if they are still renting it out.

After a later solo it was Ed that called me down in what you accurately described as a 'gruff' manner for flying over with rpm way too high!

On a later solo the engine died on final in one of his Cubs --- the telephone lines across the approach (since taken down) raised a question Bannister had not discussed with me --- over the wires or under the wires? --- I picked over and the wheels cleared by inches --- hmmm strange how the wheels get closer to those wires as the years go by.

Ed had worked with Amelia Earhardt at Teterboro and did big things in WWII according to a book on his life --- which is somewhere around the house here --- oh well.

Thanks for your memory stimulating words blueskyes.

[KCDW] "new website" by Anonymous Flier

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:37:25 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Essex County Airport, United States:

flycdw.com

[K12N] "Andover" by Aristotle

Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:55:46 -0400

Comment by @Aristotle on Aeroflex-Andover Airport, United States:

It has a nice park attached to it. Bring food and drinks (nothing to buy there) and enjoy the view of the lake and the little Piper Cubs landing on the grass runway. It's a great place to practice short field landings. There is water on both ends, so you can come rather low and cross the threshold lower that usual. All times I have been there, I never used more than half the runway for a complete stop.

[KEWR] "re: Awful airport for visiting NYC" by Anonymous Flier

Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:32:29 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Newark Liberty International Airport, United States:

Reply to @david: The way to use ewr is to use airtrain - same with jfk - really cheap and easy - $5 or $10 + train ride, bypass traffic

[N07] "Former student at Lincoln Park Airport" by Anonymous Flier

Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:48:19 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

This is the first time I have seen this website, and I am pleased to see the response from others about the airport.

Back in 1962 on my sixteenth birthday my grandfather paid for my first lesson.

The plane was a Piper PA-11, tail number 4549M. The instructor was H.T. Buckley.

The lesson was only thirty minutes but the memory lasted a lifetime. That day I was introduced to Ed Gorski and his wife, and other pilots were in the office on that day. After that first flight, I spent every dollar I earned going back for more, for I could not get enough of this new experience which completely changed my life. I remember after I had soloed once or twice Ed would ride in the back seat for the first couple of landings, to make sure I was able to handle the cross wind conditions, he always seemed to have a cigar in his mouth and yelling orders from the back seat about what I was doing wrong. When I fly today I can still hear his voice and it brings back back fond memories.

There is a lot more that I would l like to share about my experiences at the Lincoln Park airport but the website does not allow the space it would require. I thank you for the opportunity to share my experiences.

Robert J. Ruck sales@class1tool.com

[0NJ5] "0NJ5 Fla Net" by Anonymous Flier

Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:18:13 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Fla-Net Airport, United States:

Devil of a time in Flight Sim 2004 landing a Grumman Duck on this hard-to-find little strip, and I REFUSE to

use GPS on this trip !! If I can't eyeball it, I'm not setting down on it.

[3NJ1] "Pemberton Airport, New Jersey" by Anonymous Flier

Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:39:22 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Pemberton Airport, United States:

Pemnerton Airport is a " Down Home Type " Airport, and is a great place to visit. The Pilots, and regular folks are very nice. Jim 47N

[KAIY] "OY-JET" by ptomblin

Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:19:55 -0400

Comment by @ptomblin on Atlantic City Municipal Bader Field, United States:

If you want to see cluelessness in action, google for the OY-JET video. A jet registered in Denmark "landed" at Bader Field, landing downwind on a runway NOTAMed against jet operations, touched down at about the half way point on a runway that would have been too small for that jet even without a tail wind and without leaving half the runway behind them, skidded into the bay, and then after everybody was evacuated one of the jet engines seemed to start up and start pushing the plane around the bay.

[KAIY] "re: Just had to get this one in while it is still on the map" by Anonymous Flier

Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:09:36 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Atlantic City Municipal Bader Field, United States:

Reply to @XingR:

And that's one of the excuses they always use for closing airports. They build these monstrosities near the approaches (even though there are usually lots of other places they COULD build them) and then later claim that "it's dangerous to have an airport near all these people." In this case, they even build a sports stadium basicaly *ON* the airfield. *sigh*

[N07] "Ride with Ed in 1954 (Tri_Pacer)" by Anonymous Flier

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:53:45 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

I'll keep it short, me and friend Garry Flipped a coin for the right seat on a ride, garry won and as we were flying gracious Ed asked if he knew something about flying, He said yes and Ed said take over and Garry gripped the control wheel then Ed asked for a turn and Garry quickly performed a split-S (which would have made an SBD pilot envious) and had me viewing the Totowa Drive-In parking lot thru the windscreen. Ed calmly cut the throttle and very gently recovered to straight and level. Cigar smoking Ed never lost it and just verbally said thats not how you do it.

Just a little 50s aviation trivia involving some past events. Garry went on to get his license many years later, and a 172.

Rich S.

[KCDW] "re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!" by david

Fri, 22 May 2009 11:53:19 -0400

Comment by @david on Essex County Airport, United States:

Normally, a control tower will put your IFR clearance on request with center, then clear you to taxi to the active while they're waiting for the clearance to arrive for them to relay to you.

[KCDW] "re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!" by ptomblin

Fri, 22 May 2009 11:53:02 -0400

Comment by @ptomblin on Essex County Airport, United States:

In my case, I taxied without the IFR clearance because that was what I was instructed to do when I called for a clearance.

[KCDW] "re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!" by Anonymous Flier

Fri, 22 May 2009 10:51:21 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Essex County Airport, United States:

Reply to @david: I don't understand this. Why would you begin to taxi before getting your clearance. Just wondering

[KCDW] "re: ATIS, communication with CT" by Anonymous Flier

Sat, 16 May 2009 13:43:18 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Essex County Airport, United States:

Thanks for the info....it's not that I was in a hurry, I was in the plane on the ramp getting ready to taxi. and later inbound for landing. Kind of tough to see the phone# on the gate from either location. ;-) Good to know where I can find it though. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

[KCDW] "re: ATIS, communication with CT" by Anonymous Flier

Sat, 16 May 2009 03:38:25 -0400

Comment by an Anonymous Flier on Essex County Airport, United States:

Reply to @CathyV:

CDW towers phone number is posted right at the front gate, near ops all numbers are listed you cant miss it. You must have been in a hurry if you didnt catch it.

RobG

[KEWR] "Awful airport for visiting NYC" by david

Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:32:09 -0400

Comment by @david on Newark Liberty International Airport, United States:

This is a great airport for visiting northern New Jersey, but a truly awful one for visiting NYC. It is a very long, expensive cab ride into Manhattan from EWR -- I once spent 90 minutes stuck in Hoboken in rush hour before even trying the tunnels. The tunnels themselves (Holland or Lincoln) are both very slow.

The worst part, though, is trying to get *back* to EWR from Manhattan. New York cabbies hate doing the drive, since they can't take a fare back and will end up losing an hour or two of their day. The worst time is mid- to late-afternoon, near shift change. I once had to bribe a cabbie with an extra $50 just so that he'd take me in time to get my suppertime flight. Seriously, if you have any choice at all, fly into LaGuardia instead, where it's a cheap and reasonably quick NYC cab ride into Manhattan.

[N07] "re: Harrowing And Fond Memories" by distar97

Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:07:02 -0500

Comment by @distar97 on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

My primary flight training back in 1969-71 was out of LGA. The school was the long extinct La Guardia Flying Service. LGA being what it is meant we flew elsewhere for practicing t&g's and full stop landings. Lincoln Park was probably my favorite airport since I could get an idea of what making a carrier landing was like. If I remember correctly, the runway was gravel in those days and much shorter. Can anyone confirm this?

Dennis Harper

[US-NJ77] "Wrong ID?" by ptomblin

Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:13:41 -0500

Comment by @ptomblin on Caven Point Usar Center Heliport, United States:

This isn't the NJ77 in the FAA data - that one is "Warren County Public Safety Department".

[US-3NJ9] "Data problem" by ptomblin

Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:14:18 -0500

Comment by @ptomblin on Westbrook Valley Airport, United States:

This airport doesn't exist in the FAA data (although there is an airport either right here, or very nearby, called Hill Top, with the id "JY43". Plus, there is a different airport with the id "3NJ9" called "Allen Airstrip".

[N07] "Harrowing And Fond Memories" by RedOcktober

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:16:31 -0500

Comment by @RedOcktober on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

my flight instruction took place at BeechEast over at TEB back in the 80's... the instructors there (some of best people on earth) seemed to enjoy bringing the cocky students (like myself) over to Lincoln Park for a lil bit of humility training (i mean, after all, we did pay for it, didn't we)... maybe it was that look of shock and fear in our eyes when we first sighted the runway... maybe they took some sadistic pleasure in casually announcing, 'ok there's the runway, go ahead and land', and then sitting back and gauging our reaction, knowing full well that all any person of rational sensibilities could see was this ribbon of what looked like half a roadway with numbers on the ends... surely that couldn't be the runway that he was asking me to land on... it was just too thin to be a runway for real airplanes...

or maybe it was the knowledge that after landing at Lincoln Park once or twice, the new, soon to be pilot would be confident of his or her abilities to take their charge into anything that the FAA allowed to be called an airport... regardless of the width of its runways... maybe these flight instuctors knew a thing or two... or three...

so nowadays... whenever i see tv news replays of those airliners making emergency landings... and the pilot puts it down right on the centerline... i can rest assured that that pilot probably landed at Licoln Park at least once during his/her early flying days...

i drove out to Lincoln Park once after that... i just had to get a feel for what looked like one of those idyllic small local airports... from a different perspective... i wasn't dissapointed...

is the lil viewing gallery at the north end of the field still there...

--Mike Hense

[KCDW] "ATIS, communication with CT" by CathyV

Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:20:52 -0500

Comment by @CathyV on Essex County Airport, United States:

I have been flying at CDW since sometime in the summer and have been baffled by the rapid fire communication from the Tower. I can't even think that fast never mind copying key information. I just heard the ATIS ... it is currently 11/16/098 1020 EST and all I could make out was the runways in use....28 and 22. From my perspective it was supersonic. There is a lot of flight training at CDW, in fact I'm at one of flight schools on the field, and I can just imagine the frustration and intimication for students when the ATIS is in 'fast forward'....not to mention communication in general, which I've also found to be exceptionally fast. Repeated 'say again' is very inefficient and ultimately a risk to safety.

For most of my prior experience I was based at MMU, and it was a rarity when I wasn't able to get the ATIS or any other communication on first shot. I have wanted to provide this feedback for months and today's ATIS was the last straw. Since i couldn't find a phone# for the tower The information must not only be disseminated but it has to comprehensible to the intented target for it to be useful.

Thank you!

Cathy Vajtay

[KMMU] "I am based at MMU and see more GA then preivous Poster." by pa28151

Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:59:09 -0400

Comment by @pa28151 on Morristown Municipal Airport, United States:

The are quite a few Cessna's and Pipers based at Morristown. I fly on a regular basis and while there is a fair amount of jet traffic it's not 6 to 1 more like 1 to 1. I moved my Warrior to Morristown 8 months ago to get more experiance in a tower controlled enviroment. I don't regret the move at all. Services are 1st rate. I'm 60 and got my ticket 3 years ago, so how complex can it be?

[KSMQ] "Somerset (George Walker Field) is what small airports are al" by pa28151

Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:41:25 -0400

Comment by @pa28151 on Somerset Airport, United States:

Good people, great conversation, full service fuel. I learned to fly here, so It will always be my home airport. No matter where I am based. If passing by I just can't help but landing there, it feels so comfortable.

[N07] "Lincoln Park" by Wayne

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:14:35 -0400

Comment by @Wayne on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

I worked at LP from 1975-1980. Ed always called me "junior". I hated it then but over the years it was fitting. Ed was pretty old then, but he did not lack anything. He was sharp as a tack and if he missed anything Jule would let him know so.

I guess I went to work for him after he had repossed the airport from the Eastern group. I was for the most part an aircraft fueler after school and on weekends, but I wound up doing so much more. Moving planes, cutting grass, cleaning the office and assisting the mechanic when needed. And hung up a lot of what I know now are to be historical pictures in the office.

Ed always asked, every pay day, "do you want half in pay and half in flight time"? I kick my self in the butt today. I could have been trained to fly by the same guy that helped Amelia Earhart fly the Atlantic, wow Ed! And that also would have included instruction by Tony Farrell.

But I at the time liked fast cars and the girls that came with it. I think I kept Ed and the other guys happy with all the teenage girls that showed up to watch me work. But Ed would always come out, "junior we need to get doc's plane out" or something. Meaning she had to go.

Ed loved the airport and always wanted it looking its best. He also gave a lot back, never missing the chance to buy me a lunch at the Pequannock sandwich shop. He kept me stuffed with salt tabs in the summer also. And when the day was slow I would go up to his house and mow the lawn.

Jules and Ed had a nice, cozy log cabin up in the hills. The road getting there was windy and tight. If you think flying in a plane with Ed was fun, you needed to ride in a car on the way to his house. The tree limbs would fly in the open window and slap you in the face if you let it. He was a daredevil in my book.

The first flight I had in an airplane was in his J-3 Cub. I never knew you could look over your shoulder at the runway on final approach. That's how Ed did it all the time! And just prior to the wheel hitting the ground he would snap the tail around and bam you were rolling down the runway.

He came out of the office one day to see me propping an aircraft. I guess I was lucky that the plane fired up and I wasn't injured. But Ed made sure that I got some instruction before doing it again. The first instruction was a lot of ear chewing. But that's how he was, you didn't do it unless you were going to do it right.

We had one guy, Bernie. He owned a Mooney, and every time he flew it was "swift". He was German and the plane was fast. Ed would wait for him to come in for a landing and then the chase was on. Bernie would taxi way to fast for Ed's liking and he would let him know it. Better yet almost every landing Bernie would ding his prop after porposing down the runway, Ed would stop him and say he couldn't fly till it was fixed.

We had only one crash during the time I worked there. The radio shops owner had a bell 47 helicopter, that crashed just short of me while I was cutting the grass. He took off and pulled up too soon causing the clutch to go. He attempted a auto rotation but hit tail first, which caused the chopper to spin and land on its side.

Ed and Jules have since gone and I miss those hot New Jersey days at the airport. I'm glad to see that they have gone down in the history of aviation in NJ, and that they left us with so much. May LP airport continue to prosper.

[KCDW] "Fuel Prices at Mac Dan Aviation" by swinger

Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:58:50 -0400

Comment by @swinger on Essex County Airport, United States:

Thankfully, Avant Air moved out of their leaded office space at Mac Dan to give appropriate fuel competition! Mac Dan's confidential fuel discounts are rediculous. Some people/companies/flight schools/flying clubs nearly receive 20% discounts on Avgas & Jet A, the data sheets area behind the front desk in the main lobby of Mac Dan.

-That kind of discount can add up to thousands of dollars quite fast!

-Anyone wonder why their fuel trucks are always empty or why a service call for fuel takes up to thirty minutes?

[KACY] "KACY" by Soulie

Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:14:59 -0400

Comment by @Soulie on Atlantic City International Airport, United States:

For a Class C airport, this place is very GA friendly. If you are new to Class C operations, you could do alot worse that KACY as your first taste.

[KCDW] "re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!" by david

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:23:59 -0400

Comment by @david on Essex County Airport, United States:

I had exactly the same experience at Republic in spring 2004, right down to sitting on the runway (as instructed by tower) and holding everyone else up. Same lesson -- if you can take a VFR departure out of a NY-area airport, do. It's the controller's error putting you on the runway before your clearance is ready, but why invite trouble in the first place?

[KCDW] "Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!" by ptomblin

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:54:39 -0400

Comment by @ptomblin on Essex County Airport, United States:

I must have tied up traffic for 30 minutes of more waiting at the entrance for my IFR clearance. I'd taxied out after being told to, but there were 4 or 5 planes waiting behind me and by the time I suddenly realized that I could depart VFR and pick up a clearance later, the clearance had actually come. I felt like a complete dick.

[13N] "First Solo out of Trinca!" by Steve

Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:41:42 -0400

Comment by @Steve on Trinca Airport, United States:

My first Solo was out of Trinca about 10 years ago. The airport is a little run down, and a bit behind the times these days. I never thought much of those trees or divits in the grass as a student pilot. A bit of a bump was my launch pad for soft field take offs. All the little "Tricks" you learned flying out of Trinca only made you a better pilot. Avoiding tall trees wasn't something that made it tough, it made you FLY! Something a lot of "pavement" pilots forget how to do I think.

Trinca is one of the last grass strips around in NJ. It is a big part of many pilots fond memories. It is a truly enchanting airport. Look past the rough edges, reach back through time. You can still see and hear all the avid aviation enthusiasts sitting around on the old picnic table bench, chatting the warm summer days away. To this day, I can walk around the hangers, look in the office, sit on that bench, and get that same warm feeling of camaraderie we all shared in our never ending love for aviation.

A 7:45PM trip around the pattern in a J3 Cub, watching the sun set on a warm summer night, I can't think of anything more magical! I love this airport and only hope it will be around for a long time to come, to share with my children. Visit if you can!

S.J.M.

[N07] "re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY" by blueskyes

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:24:55 -0400

Comment by @blueskyes on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

I was hired to work as a flight instructor in April 1972 by Ed Gorski, minutes after we met.

I had graduated from Embry-Riddle and headed to NJ to pursue my aviation career. No jobs were available at all, except a FEW instructor jobs! Ed Gorski was somewhat gruff, but a real nice person. I had 3 other offers for FI positions, and I ended up taking a job at Linden Airport, NJ for a lot less money ($3/hour) than Ed offered ($15/hour), however, more students and more opportunities at LDJ. I stayed at LDJ for 16 months and moved on to a Cessna 421B job at North Philadelphia, which lasted for about 18 months.

Long Story Short, I ended up getting hired at Lincoln Park in early 1975 by a group of individuals as a Flight Instructor. An Eastern Airlines Crowd of pilots, who hired a puppet manager to follow their directives, hired me. Ed had sold the Captain Jack Faes/George Kershaw, Eastern groupof pilots, the airport, in good faith, and they concentrated their collections of Pitts Aircraft throughout 1975. What a racket these guys had. Maybe I was envious, as I was trying to break into a business that had no opportunities available at the time. This crowd took advantage of everything that they could get their hands on.

I left the job in August 1975 as I had seen enough, and one of the Eastern bunch (Jack Faes) needed a job for his son, who had lost his job at Wien Airlines in Alaska, so I was the junior flight instuctor and had to leave.

What a difference from this BUNCH to Ed Gorski. Well, the Captain Jack Faes and Eastern Airlines' crowd eventually overstayed their agreement with Ed, with the hangars filled with their Pitts Special toys. They never paid their local taxes ($75,000) to Lincoln Park Township while they managed the airport, and good old Ed Gorski was contacted for a default of the real estate taxes due. I guess Ed Gorski had to throw the puppet manager Bill out on his ass, and then the Faes Eastern crowd. Then Ed took possession of his beloved airport, and I assume ran it himself for many more years.

God bless Ed Gorski, he was a straight forward honest guy, not like the low lives that had infiltrated Lincoln Park from 1975-1977. I wish Ed was still around. With respect to Eastern Airlines Captain Jack Faes, he kicked me in the ass in August 1975, and then further attempted to trash my aviation career with unfounded bad references, however, I managed a successful career in corporate aviation as a manager/chief pilot from 1979-1998, operating several Falcon 50s, Gulfstream III/IV, Lear 55, Citation VII for over twenty (20) years, all based in New Jersey. I am now a B747-400 Captain for the last ten (10) years.

I'll never forget my conversations with Ed Gorski. A straight an honest man, who always treated me with respect and kindness. I am delighted that Ed took his airport back from that bunch of Eastern Airlines pilots who had abused their stay and stacked the hangars with their toys, and abused the employees!

Wherever you are Ed, I will always remember you fondly. And as far as that Eastern Airline Bunch, they got their due, eventually, in more ways than one!

[N07] "re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY" by blueskyes

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:13:53 -0400

Comment by @blueskyes on Lincoln Park Airport, United States:

I was hired to work as a flight instructor in April 1972 by Ed Gorski, minutes after we met. I had graduated from Embry-Riddle and headed to NJ to pursue my aviation career. Ed Gorski was somewhat gruff, but a real nice person. I had 3 other offers for FI positions, and I ended up taking a job at Linden Airport, NJ for alot less money than Ed offered, however, more students and more opportunities at LDJ. I stayed at LDJ for 16 months and moved on to a Cessna 421B job at North Philadelphia, which lasted for about 18 months.

Long Story Short, I ended up getting hired at Lincoln Park in early 1975 by a group of individuals as a FI. An Eastern Airlines Crowd of pilots, managed by a pupet manager who followed their directives, hired me. Ed had sold the Captain Jack Faes/George Kershaw, Eastern group, the airport, in good faith, and they concentrated their collections of Pitts Aircraft throughout 1975. What a racket these guys had. Maybe I was envious, as I was trying to break into a business that had no opportuinites available, but this crowd took advantage of everything that they could get their hands on. I left the job in August 1975 as I had seen enough, and one of the Eastern bunch needed a job for his son, who had lost his job at Wein , so I was the junior guy and had to leave. What a difference from this BUNCH to Ed Gorski. Well, the Jack Faes (Larry Faes) Eastern Airlines' crowd eventually overstayed their agreement, with the hangars filled with their toys. They never paid their local taxes to Lincoln Park, and good old ed Gorski was contacted. I guess had to throw the manager out on his ass, and then the Faes crowd. Then Ed took posession of his beloved airport. God bless Ed Gorski, he was a straight forward honest guy, not like the low lives that had infiltrated Lincol Park from 1975-1977. I wish Ed was still around. With respect to Captain Jack Faes kick in my ass in August 1975, and then his attempt to trash my career with bad references, I managed a sucessful career in corporate aviation as a manager/chief pilot operating a Falcon 50, Gulfstream III/IV, Lear 55, Citation VII for over twenty (20) years, all based in New Jersey. I am now a B747-400 Captain for the last ten (10) years.